tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558461285642691762.post7610838368646093640..comments2023-10-02T03:39:59.884-05:00Comments on Jeff Meyers: Christ's Presence at the TableJeff Meyershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16934932107746619375noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558461285642691762.post-68235967700074033702008-06-30T06:26:00.000-05:002008-06-30T06:26:00.000-05:00"How does it..uh, How does it work?""I know not my..."How does it..uh, How does it work?"<BR/>"I know not my liege. Consult the book of [sacraments]!"<BR/>Does any1 really know how a sacrament works? I've been in PCA church <I>anon</I> where I've yet to hear a decent go at it.<BR/>Of course, faith is the key. Can't have the grace w/o the faith. But the same is true of prayer. How does prayer change the pray-er? When does it work?<BR/>I think the best picture of what the Eucharist does is found in the letter to the Laodicean church. <BR/>There is condemnation (hear), commendation (respond), and then restoration (receive). That is how we find life. We hear what Jesus knows of us; we respond to it; we receive life. And all of this is based upon what it is we believe exactly. <BR/>The eating and drinking is really not about metaphysics (although they are there). The eating and drinking is about living and dying and how the twain do meet.<BR/>And they meet by faith. A believing heart hears what Jesus says (I know your deeds); responds to that word (whoever opens [his heart]); and receives life (I will come in-to him). <BR/>Really the sacrament is prayer with food along the side. So to ask how the sacraments work is to ask how prayer works and we all know that to ask is to receive.BlackNTanInTheAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14521529966694869712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558461285642691762.post-68943174040552653592008-06-25T17:53:00.000-05:002008-06-25T17:53:00.000-05:00I think a better preposition in the last sentence ...I think a better preposition in the last sentence of my last comment would be "from." Not sure if makes that much of a difference, but I figured I'd correct myself.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03367385794051404170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558461285642691762.post-33133223529468519502008-06-25T16:33:00.000-05:002008-06-25T16:33:00.000-05:00One of my favorite examples of how spiritual doesn...One of my favorite examples of how spiritual doesn't mean "non-physical" is 1 Cor. 10:1-4:<BR/><BR/>I want you to know, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ. (ESV)<BR/><BR/>We all know that the food they ate in the wilderness was real food. What made it spiritual is that the food was <I>of God</I>.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03367385794051404170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558461285642691762.post-55862774092766527272008-06-25T11:30:00.000-05:002008-06-25T11:30:00.000-05:00someone once said, "If unbelievers don't go away f...someone once said, <BR/><BR/>"If unbelievers don't go away from your service thinking, 'Those people are cannibals', we probably haven't done it right."shhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05891048379892936852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-558461285642691762.post-89461044675587159182008-06-25T10:31:00.000-05:002008-06-25T10:31:00.000-05:00JeffI don't know if things look so bad in PCA, but...Jeff<BR/><BR/>I don't know if things look so bad in PCA, but in the Presbyterian Church of Brazil, what's been passing as "really reformed Eucharistic Theology" is downright Zwinglian memorialism.<BR/><BR/>Being the Sunday School Superintendent, I get to do its opening, so, last <I>Corpus Christi</I> (it's a national holiday here), I seized the opportunity to talk about our view on the Lord's Supper in the homily (based on I Co. 10.16-17).<BR/><BR/>People found it so alien, that they interrupted the Pastor's lesson at Adult's Class no less than five times, to ask questions and discuss the homily.Eduardo H. Chagashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15567004770434300306noreply@blogger.com